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Beaucoup de Changement sur les lignes de Bus de Staréo. et pourtant....

 

 Staréo rompt son contrat qui le lie à Rabat

 

La Société Staréo qui assurait la gestion du réseau d’autobus à Rabat, veut rompre son contrat avec les autorités de la ville. Mercredi, le maire de Rabat Fathallah Oualala a déclaré à l’agence Reuters que ce sont des « pertes financières qui ont poussé la société Staréo à quitter Rabat ». En effet Staréo qui a remporté ce contrat en 2009, avait souhaité augmenter les prix des tickets pour compenser ses grosses pertes financières. Une proposition que les autorités de la ville avaient rejetée.

 

La société de transport propose un délai de six mois avant l’arrêt de ses services. Les pouvoirs publics n’excluent pas de faire appel aux sociétés marocaines de transports pour la remplacer. Staréo, filiale de Veolia Environnement (France), est un consortium d’entreprises qui regroupe Veolia Transport et les groupes marocains Bouzid et Hakam.

 

La société perdait 36 MDH par mois et a cumulé une dette de 1,3 milliard de DH. Les difficultés ont été exacerbées par le sureffectif, les sabotages des employés et la concurrence de l'informel. Les dirigeants de la ville réfléchissent à la création d'une coopérative pour remplacer Stareo.
Stareo

Retour à la case départ pour les transports publics par autobus de Rabat. Stareo, société constituée par consortium formé par Veolia Transport et les sociétés Bouzid et Hakam, a déposé le bilan. Selon des sources bien informées, elle a concédé une perte de 36 MDH par mois en 2009, sans compter les arriérés de 6 millions et une dette évaluée à 1,3 milliard DH.
Lors d’une audience tenue le 11 mai, le tribunal de commerce de Rabat a pris connaissance des explications des responsables de la société. D’après la loi, le juge-commissaire doit statuer au plus tard dans les 15 jours de sa saisine. Mais, indiquent les mêmes sources, on est parti pour une liquidation qui met fin à une expérience qui devait pourtant durer au moins 15 ans selon les termes du contrat signé initialement avec les autorités locales.
A peine 16 mois et les concepteurs de ce projet, qui avaient nourri beaucoup d’espoirs quant à la possibilité de doter la ville d’un transport public par bus de haut niveau ou, du moins, de qualité correcte, jettent l’éponge. Stareo s’était engagée sur un programme d’investissement de près de 2 milliards de DH sur 15 ans. Elle avait prévu de doter la ville de 553 autobus neufs et de construire des infrastructures spécialement dédiées à la maintenance, l’entretien et au stationnement des véhicules.
Mieux encore, ses dirigeants étudiaient la possibilité d’aménager, avec l’appui de la mairie, 87 km de couloirs propres aux bus. La société avait réceptionné un parc de 116 véhicules des anciennes sociétés de la ville qui exerçaient l’activité. 66 en mauvais état et 50 dans un état moyen. C’était une des erreurs qui allaient déboucher sur l’échec de l’expérience.
Au vu de l’expérience de Veolia pour de tels projets et des années qu’ont duré les négociations, d’aucuns pensaient que le projet était viable. Comment alors expliquer qu’il ait tourné court ?

Un personnel trois fois en sureffectif

Selon des sources bien informées, les dirigeants du consortium avaient, en fait, mal négocié le contrat de gestion déléguée. Contrairement à Alsa à Marrakech, qui a obtenu que les terrains des dépôts leur soient octroyés par les autorités locales, les responsables de Stareo ont placé la barre très haut pour remporter le contrat. D’abord, le prix du ticket a été ramené à 3,50 DH contre les 4 DH alors appliqués à Rabat. Deuxième concession fatale : l’engagement de racheter les véhicules en bon état (une centaine) des anciens opérateurs et de louer le reste.
Après la conclusion du contrat, la société a été contrainte d’entamer l’activité cinq mois avant la date convenue sous la pression des autorités qui voulaient mettre fin aux vives manifestations de milliers d’employés non retenus par la nouvelle société. Et comme si cela ne suffisait pas, Stareo s’est retrouvé avec 3 500 employés sur les bras au lieu des 1 100 nécessaires à l’exploitation. Et tout cela avec le même budget réservé aux salaires. En somme, la société n’avait d’autre choix que de réduire les salaires.
Pour s’en sortir, la décision a été prise pour limiter les heures de travail de manière à contenir les salaires des employés. Plus concrètement, la consigne a été d’appliquer le Smig horaire. Première cible touchée par une telle disposition : les chauffeurs jugés en surnombre. En limitant la durée de travail quotidienne à une moyenne de 7 heures par chauffeur, les responsables RH voulaient d’abord s’assurer de payer le minimum légal et de garantir une rotation de tout ce personnel. Cette mesure s’est répercutée sur les rémunérations. «On gagnait 4 000 à 4 500 DH par mois grâce aux heures supplémentaires, mais avec le nouveau système, notre salaire ne dépasse pas les 2 400 DH», confie un chauffeur de bus. Conséquence naturelle : le climat se dégrade rapidement.
Preuve encore que la nouvelle culture avait du mal à s’enraciner : les costumes et tailleurs confectionnés pour le personnel masculin et féminin ont été boudés par le personnel. Du coup, ce sont 4 MDH qui étaient partis en fumée. A cela s’ajoutent des actions qui ont tout l’air de sabotage. «Pour écourter la durée de travail, certains chauffeurs n’hésitaient pas à abîmer le moteur ou la boîte de vitesses», témoigne un cadre.
A cela s’ajoutent d’autres facteurs exogènes. Par malchance, Stareo a commencé au moment où le transport clandestin battait son plein, sans que cela suscite des réactions de la part des autorités municipales

Culture moderne en déphasage avec l’état du secteur

Il n’en demeure pas moins que l’échec de l’expérience ne peut être attribué uniquement aux facteurs extérieurs. Les dirigeants de la société ont aussi leur part de responsabilité. A commencer par le manque de connaissance des réalités du marché local. Le fait de copier l’expérience française et européenne en général s’est avéré une erreur de taille. Il est en effet difficile de changer dans un temps très court le comportement d’un groupe mal formé et habitué à travailler dans des entreprises mal structurées. En atteste l’exemple de l’introduction de l’informatique que le personnel a mis du temps à assimiler.
Autre signe de méconnaissance du marché : l’évaluation du chiffre d’affaires de l’activité. Les dirigeants de Stareo avaient tablé au moins sur la réalisation du même chiffre d’affaires quotidien réalisé par toutes les sociétés qui opéraient dans le secteur avant son arrivée, soit 2,4 MDH par jour. Selon des sources bien informées, elle parvient à peine à collecter un million de DH. De plus, les anciens opérateurs ne déclaraient qu’une partie du personnel, et se soustrayaient au paiement des impôts.

 

autobus-rabat.jpg«Dans ces conditions, il était clair qu’on ne pouvait pas aller très loin», signale non sans amertume un ancien directeur.

Sauvetage : Qui fera le pompier ?

Pour remplacer Stareo, les dirigeants de la Ville examinent actuellement les moyens de créer une entité qui devrait avoir le statut de coopérative. Tous les arrondissements de la ville y seraient représentés pour constituer 51% de son capital. Pour compléter le tour de table, l’idée retenue est de faire appel à des institutions publiques et semi-publiques dans le cadre d’une société mixte. La Caisse de dépôt et de gestion (CDG), généralement sollicitée dans pareils cas, aurait déjà décliné une offre dans ce sens. Autant dire que la mission ne sera pas de tout repos.

En attendant, une chose est sûre : le dépôt de bilan de Stareo poussera les communes de Rabat à mettre la main à la poche. Déjà, elles sont intervenues pour payer une commande de 50 nouveaux bus que Stareo avait passée. Et le pire est à venir

 

 

 

 En cliquant sur le numéro de la ligne vous découvrirez les principaux arrèt ainsi que le départ et l'arrivée de la ligne. 

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4 OCEAN  BAB EL HAD  AGDAL  AVISSENE  UNIVERSITE HAY RIAD   MASSIRA 1  AV.MOHAMMED V  HASSAN I

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8 OCEAN  BAB EL HAD AV DES NATIONS UNIES  AGDAL   R.P. AVICENNE  HAY RIAD  ASSWAK SALLAM  MILANO  CHIGA   MAGHRIB EL ARABI  MARCHE DE GROS
32 OCEAN  BAB EL HAD GARE AGDAL   AGDAL BEN SINA  HOPITAL MILITAIRE AVICENNE  HAY RIAD  GUICH OUDAYAS  MASSIRA 1 MILANO  CHIGA   MAGHRIB EL ARABI
40 OCEAN  BAB EL HAD AV. HASSAN II   YACOUB EL MANSOUR  EL KOUASS  EL MANAL  AV.HASSAN II  MASSIRA 1    KROUCH  MER EL KHEIR
45 BAB EL HAD  AV.HASSAN II  BAB TAMESNA  GARE ROUTIERE KAMRA  AL MANAL  COMPLEXE SPORTIF MllY ABDALLAH JARDIN ZOOLOGIQUE   CENTRE DE TEMARA MASSIRA 1 

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First, let's get a little historical perspective on American health care. This is not intended to be an exhausted look into that history but it will give us an appreciation of how the health care system and our expectations for it developed. What drove costs higher and higher?

To begin, let's turn to the American civil war. In that war, dated tactics and the carnage inflicted by modern weapons of the era combined to cause ghastly results. Not generally known is that most of the deaths on both sides of that war were not the result of actual combat but to what happened after a battlefield wound was inflicted. To begin with, evacuation of the wounded moved at a snail's pace and this caused severe delays in treating the wounded. Secondly, many wounds were subjected to wound care, related surgeries and/or amputations of the affected limbs and this often resulted in the onset of massive infection. So you might survive a battle wound only to die at the hands of medical care providers who although well-intentioned, their interventions were often quite lethal. High death tolls can also be ascribed to everyday sicknesses and diseases in a time when no antibiotics existed. In total something like 600,000 deaths occurred from all causes, over 2% of the U.S. population at the time!

Let's skip to the first half of the 20th century for some additional perspective and to bring us up to more modern times. After the civil war there were steady improvements in American medicine in both the understanding and treatment of certain diseases, new surgical techniques and in physician education and training. But for the most part the best that doctors could offer their patients was a "wait and see" approach. Medicine could handle bone fractures and increasingly attempt risky surgeries (now largely performed in sterile surgical environments) but medicines were not yet available to handle serious illnesses. The majority of deaths remained the result of untreatable conditions such as tuberculosis, pneumonia, scarlet fever and measles and/or related complications. Doctors were increasingly aware of heart and vascular conditions, and cancer but they had almost nothing with which to treat these conditions.

This very basic review of American medical history helps us to understand that until quite recently (around the 1950's) we had virtually no technologies with which to treat serious or even minor ailments. Here is a critical point we need to understand; "nothing to treat you with means that visits to the doctor if at all were relegated to emergencies so in such a scenario costs are curtailed. The simple fact is that there was little for doctors to offer and therefore virtually nothing to drive health care spending. A second factor holding down costs was that medical treatments that were provided were paid for out-of-pocket, meaning by way of an individuals personal resources. There was no such thing as health insurance and certainly not health insurance paid by an employer. Except for the very destitute who were lucky to find their way into a charity hospital, health care costs were the responsibility of the individual.

What does health care insurance have to do with health care costs? Its impact on health care costs has been, and remains to this day, absolutely enormous. When health insurance for individuals and families emerged as a means for corporations to escape wage freezes and to attract and retain employees after World War II, almost overnight a great pool of money became available to pay for health care. Money, as a result of the availability of billions of dollars from health insurance pools, encouraged an innovative America to increase medical research efforts. More Americans became insured not only through private, employer sponsored health insurance but through increased government funding that created Medicare and Medicaid (1965). In addition funding became available for expanded veterans health care benefits. Finding a cure for almost anything has consequently become very lucrative. This is also the primary reason for the vast array of treatments we have available today.

I do not wish to convey that medical innovations are a bad thing. Think of the tens of millions of lives that have been saved, extended, enhanced and made more productive as a result. But with a funding source grown to its current magnitude (hundreds of billions of dollars annually) upward pressure on health care costs are inevitable. Doctor's offer and most of us demand and get access to the latest available health care technology in the form of pharmaceuticals, medical devices, diagnostic tools and surgical procedures. So the result is that there is more health care to spend our money on and until very recently most of us were insured and the costs were largely covered by a third-party (government, employers). Add an insatiable and unrealistic public demand for access and treatment and we have the "perfect storm" for higher and higher health care costs. And by and large the storm is only intensifying.

At this point, let's turn to the key questions that will lead us into a review and hopefully a better understanding of the health care reform proposals in the news today. Is the current trajectory of U.S. health care spending sustainable? Can America maintain its world competitiveness when 16%, heading for 20% of our gross national product is being spent on health care? What are the other industrialized countries spending on health care and is it even close to these numbers? When we add politics and an election year to the debate, information to help us answer these questions become critical. We need to spend some effort in understanding health care and sorting out how we think about it. Properly armed we can more intelligently determine whether certain health care proposals might solve or worsen some of these problems. What can be done about the challenges? How can we as individuals contribute to the solutions?

The Obama health care plan is complex for sure - I have never seen a health care plan that isn't. But through a variety of programs his plan attempts to deal with a) increasing the number of American that are covered by adequate insurance (almost 50 million are not), and b) managing costs in such a manner that quality and our access to health care is not adversely affected. Republicans seek to achieve these same basic and broad goals, but their approach is proposed as being more market driven than government driven. Let's look at what the Obama plan does to accomplish the two objectives above. Remember, by the way, that his plan was passed by congress, and begins to seriously kick-in starting in 2014. So this is the direction we are currently taking as we attempt to reform health care.


Through insurance exchanges and an expansion of Medicaid,the Obama plan dramatically expands the number of Americans that will be covered by health insurance.


To cover the cost of this expansion the plan requires everyone to have health insurance with a penalty to be paid if we don't comply. It will purportedly send money to the states to cover those individuals added to state-based Medicaid programs.


To cover the added costs there were a number of new taxes introduced, one being a 2.5% tax on new medical technologies and another increases taxes on interest and dividend income for wealthier Americans.


The Obama plan also uses concepts such as evidence-based medicine, accountable care organizations, comparative effectiveness research and reduced reimbursement to health care providers (doctors and hospitals) to control costs.


The insurance mandate covered by points 1 and 2 above is a worthy goal and most industrialized countries outside of the U.S. provide "free" (paid for by rather high individual and corporate taxes) health care to most if not all of their citizens. It is important to note, however, that there are a number of restrictions for which many Americans would be culturally unprepared. Here is the primary controversial aspect of the Obama plan, the insurance mandate. The U.S. Supreme Court recently decided to hear arguments as to the constitutionality of the health insurance mandate as a result of a petition by 26 states attorney's general that congress exceeded its authority under the commerce clause of the U.S. constitution by passing this element of the plan. The problem is that if the Supreme Court should rule against the mandate, it is generally believed that the Obama plan as we know it is doomed. This is because its major goal of providing health insurance to all would be severely limited if not terminated altogether by such a decision.

As you would guess, the taxes covered by point 3 above are rather unpopular with those entities and individuals that have to pay them. Medical device companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, doctors and insurance companies all had to "give up" something that would either create new revenue or would reduce costs within their spheres of control. As an example, Stryker Corporation, a large medical device company, recently announced at least a 1,000 employee reduction in part to cover these new fees. This is being experienced by other medical device companies and pharmaceutical companies as well. The reduction in good paying jobs in these sectors and in the hospital sector may rise as former cost structures will have to be dealt with in order to accommodate the reduced rate of reimbursement to hospitals. Over the next ten years some estimates put the cost reductions to hospitals and physicians at half a trillion dollars and this will flow directly to and affect the companies that supply hospitals and doctors with the latest medical technologies. None of this is to say that efficiencies will not be realized by these changes or that other jobs will in turn be created but this will represent painful change for a while. It helps us to understand that health care reform does have an effect both positive and negative.

Finally, the Obama plan seeks to change the way medical decisions are made. While clinical and basic research underpins almost everything done in medicine today, doctors are creatures of habit like the rest of us and their training and day-to-day experiences dictate to a great extent how they go about diagnosing and treating our conditions. Enter the concept of evidence-based medicine and comparative effectiveness research. Both of these seek to develop and utilize data bases from electronic health records and other sources to give better and more timely information and feedback to physicians as to the outcomes and costs of the treatments they are providing. There is great waste in health care today, estimated at perhaps a third of an over 2 trillion dollar health care spend annually. Imagine the savings that are possible from a reduction in unnecessary test and procedures that do not compare favorably with health care interventions that are better documented as effective. Now the Republicans and others don't generally like these ideas as they tend to characterize them as "big government control" of your and my health care. But to be fair, regardless of their political persuasions, most people who understand health care at all, know that better data for the purposes described above will be crucial to getting health care efficiencies, patient safety and costs headed in the right direction.

A brief review of how Republicans and more conservative individuals think about health care reform. I believe they would agree that costs must come under control and that more, not fewer Americans should have access to health care regardless of their ability to pay. But the main difference is that these folks see market forces and competition as the way to creating the cost reductions and efficiencies we need. There are a number of ideas with regard to driving more competition among health insurance companies and health care providers (doctors and hospitals) so that the consumer would begin to drive cost down by the choices we make. This works in many sectors of our economy but this formula has shown that improvements are illusive when applied to health care. Primarily the problem is that health care choices are difficult even for those who understand it and are connected. The general population, however, is not so informed and besides we have all been brought up to "go to the doctor" when we feel it is necessary and we also have a cultural heritage that has engendered within most of us the feeling that health care is something that is just there and there really isn't any reason not to access it for whatever the reason and worse we all feel that there is nothing we can do to affect its costs to insure its availability to those with serious problems.

OK, this article was not intended to be an exhaustive study as I needed to keep it short in an attempt to hold my audience's attention and to leave some room for discussing what we can do contribute mightily to solving some of the problems. First we must understand that the dollars available for health care are not limitless. Any changes that are put in place to provide better insurance coverage and access to care will cost more. And somehow we have to find the revenues to pay for these changes. At the same time we have to pay less for medical treatments and procedures and do something to restrict the availability of unproven or poorly documented treatments as we are the highest cost health care system in the world and don't necessarily have the best results in terms of longevity or avoiding chronic diseases much earlier than necessary.

I believe that we need a revolutionary change in the way we think about health care, its availability, its costs and who pays for it. And if you think I am about to say we should arbitrarily and drastically reduce spending on health care you would be wrong. Here it is fellow citizens - health care spending needs to be preserved and protected for those who need it. And to free up these dollars those of us who don't need it or can delay it or avoid it need to act. First, we need to convince our politicians that this country needs sustained public education with regard to the value of preventive health strategies. This should be a top priority and it has worked to reduce the number of U.S. smokers for example. If prevention were to take hold, it is reasonable to assume that those needing health care for the myriad of life style engendered chronic diseases would decrease dramatically. Millions of Americans are experiencing these diseases far earlier than in decades past and much of this is due to poor life style choices. This change alone would free up plenty of money to handle the health care costs of those in dire need of treatment, whether due to an acute emergency or chronic condition.

Let's go deeper on the first issue. Most of us refuse do something about implementing basic wellness strategies into our daily lives. We don't exercise but we offer a lot of excuses. We don't eat right but we offer a lot of excuses. We smoke and/or we drink alcohol to excess and we offer a lot of excuses as to why we can't do anything about managing these known to be destructive personal health habits. We don't take advantage of preventive health check-ups that look at blood pressure, cholesterol readings and body weight but we offer a lot of excuses. In short we neglect these things and the result is that we succumb much earlier than necessary to chronic diseases like heart problems, diabetes and high blood pressure. We wind up accessing doctors for these and more routine matters because "health care is there" and somehow we think we have no responsibility for reducing our demand on it.

It is difficult for us to listen to these truths but easy to blame the sick. Maybe they should take better care of themselves! Well, that might be true or maybe they have a genetic condition and they have become among the unfortunate through absolutely no fault of their own. But the point is that you and I can implement personalized preventive disease measures as a way of dramatically improving health care access for others while reducing its costs. It is far better to be productive by doing something we can control then shifting the blame.

There are a huge number of free web sites available that can steer us to a more healthful life style. A soon as you can, "Google" "preventive health care strategies", look up your local hospital's web site and you will find more than enough help to get you started. Finally, there is a lot to think about here and I have tried to outline the challenges but also the very powerful effect we could have on preserving the best of America's health care system now and into the future. I am anxious to hear from you and until then - take charge and increase your chances for good health while making sure that health care is there when we need it.
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Why are Americans so worked up about health care reform? Statements such as "don't touch my Medicare" or "everyone should have access to state of the art health care irrespective of cost" are in my opinion uninformed and visceral responses that indicate a poor understanding of our health care system's history, its current and future resources and the funding challenges that America faces going forward. While we all wonder how the health care system has reached what some refer to as a crisis stage. Let's try to take some of the emotion out of the debate by briefly examining how health care in this country emerged and how that has formed our thinking and culture about health care. With that as a foundation let's look at the pros and cons of the Obama administration health care reform proposals and let's look at the concepts put forth by the Republicans?

Access to state of the art health care services is something we can all agree would be a good thing for this country. Experiencing a serious illness is one of life's major challenges and to face it without the means to pay for it is positively frightening. But as we shall see, once we know the facts, we will find that achieving this goal will not be easy without our individual contribution.

These are the themes I will touch on to try to make some sense out of what is happening to American health care and the steps we can personally take to make things better.


<i><u>A recent history of American health care - what has driven the costs so high?</u></i>

<b>Key elements of the Obama health care plan</b>

<u><strong>The Republican view of health care - free market competition</strong></u>

<b>Universal access to state of the art health care - a worthy goal but not easy to achieve</b>

<b>what can we do?</b>


First, let's get a little historical perspective on American health care. This is not intended to be an exhausted look into that history but it will give us an appreciation of how the health care system and our expectations for it developed. What drove costs higher and higher?

To begin, let's turn to the American civil war. In that war, dated tactics and the carnage inflicted by modern weapons of the era combined to cause ghastly results. Not generally known is that most of the deaths on both sides of that war were not the result of actual combat but to what happened after a battlefield wound was inflicted. To begin with, evacuation of the wounded moved at a snail's pace and this caused severe delays in treating the wounded. Secondly, many wounds were subjected to wound care, related surgeries and/or amputations of the affected limbs and this often resulted in the onset of massive infection. So you might survive a battle wound only to die at the hands of medical care providers who although well-intentioned, their interventions were often quite lethal. High death tolls can also be ascribed to everyday sicknesses and diseases in a time when no antibiotics existed. In total something like 600,000 deaths occurred from all causes, over 2% of the U.S. population at the time!

Let's skip to the first half of the 20th century for some additional perspective and to bring us up to more modern times. After the civil war there were steady improvements in American medicine in both the understanding and treatment of certain diseases, new surgical techniques and in physician education and training. But for the most part the best that doctors could offer their patients was a "wait and see" approach. Medicine could handle bone fractures and increasingly attempt risky surgeries (now largely performed in sterile surgical environments) but medicines were not yet available to handle serious illnesses. The majority of deaths remained the result of untreatable conditions such as tuberculosis, pneumonia, scarlet fever and measles and/or related complications. Doctors were increasingly aware of heart and vascular conditions, and cancer but they had almost nothing with which to treat these conditions.

This very basic review of American medical history helps us to understand that until quite recently (around the 1950's) we had virtually no technologies with which to treat serious or even minor ailments. Here is a critical point we need to understand; "nothing to treat you with means that visits to the doctor if at all were relegated to emergencies so in such a scenario costs are curtailed. The simple fact is that there was little for doctors to offer and therefore virtually nothing to drive health care spending. A second factor holding down costs was that medical treatments that were provided were paid for out-of-pocket, meaning by way of an individuals personal resources. There was no such thing as health insurance and certainly not health insurance paid by an employer. Except for the very destitute who were lucky to find their way into a charity hospital, health care costs were the responsibility of the individual.

What does health care insurance have to do with health care costs? Its impact on health care costs has been, and remains to this day, absolutely enormous. When health insurance for individuals and families emerged as a means for corporations to escape wage freezes and to attract and retain employees after World War II, almost overnight a great pool of money became available to pay for health care. Money, as a result of the availability of billions of dollars from health insurance pools, encouraged an innovative America to increase medical research efforts. More Americans became insured not only through private, employer sponsored health insurance but through increased government funding that created Medicare and Medicaid (1965). In addition funding became available for expanded veterans health care benefits. Finding a cure for almost anything has consequently become very lucrative. This is also the primary reason for the vast array of treatments we have available today.

I do not wish to convey that medical innovations are a bad thing. Think of the tens of millions of lives that have been saved, extended, enhanced and made more productive as a result. But with a funding source grown to its current magnitude (hundreds of billions of dollars annually) upward pressure on health care costs are inevitable. Doctor's offer and most of us demand and get access to the latest available health care technology in the form of pharmaceuticals, medical devices, diagnostic tools and surgical procedures. So the result is that there is more health care to spend our money on and until very recently most of us were insured and the costs were largely covered by a third-party (government, employers). Add an insatiable and unrealistic public demand for access and treatment and we have the "perfect storm" for higher and higher health care costs. And by and large the storm is only intensifying.

At this point, let's turn to the key questions that will lead us into a review and hopefully a better understanding of the health care reform proposals in the news today. Is the current trajectory of U.S. health care spending sustainable? Can America maintain its world competitiveness when 16%, heading for 20% of our gross national product is being spent on health care? What are the other industrialized countries spending on health care and is it even close to these numbers? When we add politics and an election year to the debate, information to help us answer these questions become critical. We need to spend some effort in understanding health care and sorting out how we think about it. Properly armed we can more intelligently determine whether certain health care proposals might solve or worsen some of these problems. What can be done about the challenges? How can we as individuals contribute to the solutions?

The Obama health care plan is complex for sure - I have never seen a health care plan that isn't. But through a variety of programs his plan attempts to deal with a) increasing the number of American that are covered by adequate insurance (almost 50 million are not), and b) managing costs in such a manner that quality and our access to health care is not adversely affected. Republicans seek to achieve these same basic and broad goals, but their approach is proposed as being more market driven than government driven. Let's look at what the Obama plan does to accomplish the two objectives above. Remember, by the way, that his plan was passed by congress, and begins to seriously kick-in starting in 2014. So this is the direction we are currently taking as we attempt to reform health care.


Through insurance exchanges and an expansion of Medicaid,the Obama plan dramatically expands the number of Americans that will be covered by health insurance.


To cover the cost of this expansion the plan requires everyone to have health insurance with a penalty to be paid if we don't comply. It will purportedly send money to the states to cover those individuals added to state-based Medicaid programs.


To cover the added costs there were a number of new taxes introduced, one being a 2.5% tax on new medical technologies and another increases taxes on interest and dividend income for wealthier Americans.


The Obama plan also uses concepts such as evidence-based medicine, accountable care organizations, comparative effectiveness research and reduced reimbursement to health care providers (doctors and hospitals) to control costs.


The insurance mandate covered by points 1 and 2 above is a worthy goal and most industrialized countries outside of the U.S. provide "free" (paid for by rather high individual and corporate taxes) health care to most if not all of their citizens. It is important to note, however, that there are a number of restrictions for which many Americans would be culturally unprepared. Here is the primary controversial aspect of the Obama plan, the insurance mandate. The U.S. Supreme Court recently decided to hear arguments as to the constitutionality of the health insurance mandate as a result of a petition by 26 states attorney's general that congress exceeded its authority under the commerce clause of the U.S. constitution by passing this element of the plan. The problem is that if the Supreme Court should rule against the mandate, it is generally believed that the Obama plan as we know it is doomed. This is because its major goal of providing health insurance to all would be severely limited if not terminated altogether by such a decision.

As you would guess, the taxes covered by point 3 above are rather unpopular with those entities and individuals that have to pay them. Medical device companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, doctors and insurance companies all had to "give up" something that would either create new revenue or would reduce costs within their spheres of control. As an example, Stryker Corporation, a large medical device company, recently announced at least a 1,000 employee reduction in part to cover these new fees. This is being experienced by other medical device companies and pharmaceutical companies as well. The reduction in good paying jobs in these sectors and in the hospital sector may rise as former cost structures will have to be dealt with in order to accommodate the reduced rate of reimbursement to hospitals. Over the next ten years some estimates put the cost reductions to hospitals and physicians at half a trillion dollars and this will flow directly to and affect the companies that supply hospitals and doctors with the latest medical technologies. None of this is to say that efficiencies will not be realized by these changes or that other jobs will in turn be created but this will represent painful change for a while. It helps us to understand that health care reform does have an effect both positive and negative.

Finally, the Obama plan seeks to change the way medical decisions are made. While clinical and basic research underpins almost everything done in medicine today, doctors are creatures of habit like the rest of us and their training and day-to-day experiences dictate to a great extent how they go about diagnosing and treating our conditions. Enter the concept of evidence-based medicine and comparative effectiveness research. Both of these seek to develop and utilize data bases from electronic health records and other sources to give better and more timely information and feedback to physicians as to the outcomes and costs of the treatments they are providing. There is great waste in health care today, estimated at perhaps a third of an over 2 trillion dollar health care spend annually. Imagine the savings that are possible from a reduction in unnecessary test and procedures that do not compare favorably with health care interventions that are better documented as effective. Now the Republicans and others don't generally like these ideas as they tend to characterize them as "big government control" of your and my health care. But to be fair, regardless of their political persuasions, most people who understand health care at all, know that better data for the purposes described above will be crucial to getting health care efficiencies, patient safety and costs headed in the right direction.

A brief review of how Republicans and more conservative individuals think about health care reform. I believe they would agree that costs must come under control and that more, not fewer Americans should have access to health care regardless of their ability to pay. But the main difference is that these folks see market forces and competition as the way to creating the cost reductions and efficiencies we need. There are a number of ideas with regard to driving more competition among health insurance companies and health care providers (doctors and hospitals) so that the consumer would begin to drive cost down by the choices we make. This works in many sectors of our economy but this formula has shown that improvements are illusive when applied to health care. Primarily the problem is that health care choices are difficult even for those who understand it and are connected. The general population, however, is not so informed and besides we have all been brought up to "go to the doctor" when we feel it is necessary and we also have a cultural heritage that has engendered within most of us the feeling that health care is something that is just there and there really isn't any reason not to access it for whatever the reason and worse we all feel that there is nothing we can do to affect its costs to insure its availability to those with serious problems.

OK, this article was not intended to be an exhaustive study as I needed to keep it short in an attempt to hold my audience's attention and to leave some room for discussing what we can do contribute mightily to solving some of the problems. First we must understand that the dollars available for health care are not limitless. Any changes that are put in place to provide better insurance coverage and access to care will cost more. And somehow we have to find the revenues to pay for these changes. At the same time we have to pay less for medical treatments and procedures and do something to restrict the availability of unproven or poorly documented treatments as we are the highest cost health care system in the world and don't necessarily have the best results in terms of longevity or avoiding chronic diseases much earlier than necessary.

I believe that we need a revolutionary change in the way we think about health care, its availability, its costs and who pays for it. And if you think I am about to say we should arbitrarily and drastically reduce spending on health care you would be wrong. Here it is fellow citizens - health care spending needs to be preserved and protected for those who need it. And to free up these dollars those of us who don't need it or can delay it or avoid it need to act. First, we need to convince our politicians that this country needs sustained public education with regard to the value of preventive health strategies. This should be a top priority and it has worked to reduce the number of U.S. smokers for example. If prevention were to take hold, it is reasonable to assume that those needing health care for the myriad of life style engendered chronic diseases would decrease dramatically. Millions of Americans are experiencing these diseases far earlier than in decades past and much of this is due to poor life style choices. This change alone would free up plenty of money to handle the health care costs of those in dire need of treatment, whether due to an acute emergency or chronic condition.

Let's go deeper on the first issue. Most of us refuse do something about implementing basic wellness strategies into our daily lives. We don't exercise but we offer a lot of excuses. We don't eat right but we offer a lot of excuses. We smoke and/or we drink alcohol to excess and we offer a lot of excuses as to why we can't do anything about managing these known to be destructive personal health habits. We don't take advantage of preventive health check-ups that look at blood pressure, cholesterol readings and body weight but we offer a lot of excuses. In short we neglect these things and the result is that we succumb much earlier than necessary to chronic diseases like heart problems, diabetes and high blood pressure. We wind up accessing doctors for these and more routine matters because "health care is there" and somehow we think we have no responsibility for reducing our demand on it.

It is difficult for us to listen to these truths but easy to blame the sick. Maybe they should take better care of themselves! Well, that might be true or maybe they have a genetic condition and they have become among the unfortunate through absolutely no fault of their own. But the point is that you and I can implement personalized preventive disease measures as a way of dramatically improving health care access for others while reducing its costs. It is far better to be productive by doing something we can control then shifting the blame.

There are a huge number of free web sites available that can steer us to a more healthful life style. A soon as you can, "Google" "preventive health care strategies", look up your local hospital's web site and you will find more than enough help to get you started. Finally, there is a lot to think about here and I have tried to outline the challenges but also the very powerful effect we could have on preserving the best of America's health care system now and into the future. I am anxious to hear from you and until then - take charge and increase your chances for good health while making sure that health care is there when we need it.
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  • 41. abdelilah | 16/07/2017
slm bus li di mn massira rabat vers hôpital miltaire marifi
abdelilah
  • 42. abdelilah | 16/07/2017
brit les bus li diw mn gare agdal aw rabat ville vers centre temara
aissam boutahar
  • 43. aissam boutahar | 15/07/2017
je cherche la ligne entre gare rabat agdal rt ryad cot" de hopital militaire
Yassine
  • 44. Yassine | 11/07/2017
je cherche la ligne entre gare Rabat ville et l'aeroport rabat salé
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  • 47. HOUDA | 03/04/2017
je veux comprendre pourquoi je dois attendre 1h30 ou même plus le matin pour prendre le 26 c c pas normal je viens à l’arrêt à 8h00 et le bus ne vient qu'a partir de 9h15mn ou meme plus, il y'a un bu par 3h00, çà ennérve
merci de résoudre ce probleme
yassine ziad
  • 48. yassine ziad | 26/02/2017
3afaak bghiit ta3toni ra9m dyal bus li kaywassal bouregreg f sale mn rabat medina llah ykhalikom
Youssef
  • 49. Youssef | 23/02/2017
Pourquoi les chauffeurs sont toujours près à arrêter les bus n importe ou quand une fille le demande
et quand les hommes demandes les arrêts aux stations, les chauffeurs commencent à nous fournir des leçons d'éducation?
fatima
  • 50. fatima | 05/02/2017
salam momkin n3raf ina bus aywassalni man bab lhad l ta9adom khossosan hda mini parck et merci d 'avance
khalid jaoui
  • 51. khalid jaoui | 30/01/2017
bonjour,
je voudrais savoir quelle bus prendre pour aller de kamra vers tamesna.
merci
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  • 52. Lancegof | 25/01/2017
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ahmed
  • 53. ahmed | 30/12/2016
salam s'il vous plait bghit nmchi mn la gare de rabat ville à l'aéreport salé achmn ligne o achmen wa9t le samedi
naima
  • 54. naima (site web) | 25/12/2016
Salam numéro bus pour de rabat ville à marjane hay riad
hassan
  • 55. hassan | 08/12/2016
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ayman zaaboul
  • 56. ayman zaaboul | 09/10/2016
bonjour,est ce que il y a une ligne de bus entre residence assabah et faculte des sciences
JAAFARI
  • 57. JAAFARI (site web) | 05/10/2016
Bonjour
je réclamme un BUS de ligne N° 17 qui fait Souissi TAMESNA ces chauffeurs ne font pas leur travaux comme il faut je suis un citoyen qui prend le bus chaque jour de TEMARA j'attends de 06h00 à 06h45 et là le bus arrive quand je demande au receveur est ce que c'est la 1ere ligne est ce bus il me dit non elle est ou la 1ere ligne ????? franchement c'est merdique votre transport pas de propreté pas d'hygiène lahoma ina hada la monkar je vais vous faire de la pub si ça n'arrange pas et vous vous verrez dans les médias
merci
Mohamed
  • 58. Mohamed (site web) | 29/09/2016
S'il vous plais je voudrais connaitre les bus des lignes suivantes
Hay nahda - faculté de medcine
Hay nahda - al akkari.
Merci
mostafi rajae
  • 59. mostafi rajae | 28/09/2016
bonjour,est ce que il y a une ligne de bus entre l'ENS et le cité d'agdal
mohamed adil
  • 60. mohamed adil | 24/09/2016
Bonjour,
quelle(s) ligne(s) prendre pour aller de la commune takaddoum à l'UIR?
Merci
Nanou
  • 61. Nanou | 07/09/2016
Svp les nums dyal les bus mn marifi l chi blasa 9triba lhad l3onwan Avenue Med. Belhassan El Ouazzani ang. rue Ketama, km 4 Souissi RABATwla mn agdal l had l3onwan merci !
yassine
  • 62. yassine | 31/08/2016
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Imane
  • 63. Imane | 13/08/2016
Salam svp bghit n3ref que bus khasni nakhud besh nmshi l mega mall a partir de la are rabat agdal 3afakum c'est sii urgent merci d avance
abdelkebir
  • 64. abdelkebir | 19/06/2016
Quel bus dois je prendre pr aller a Marjane hay ryad
mohamed
  • 65. mohamed | 15/06/2016
svl
pour aller de hay lfath à l'univercité internatioinnale de rabat
je prend quelle ligne ?
Merci.
chiboub abdeslam
  • 66. chiboub abdeslam | 13/06/2016
slvp....kdam f 3ine ati9 num. 7 .houwa likayn bouhdou mn bab lhad l3ine ati9 oma3a lassaf kayhrgna f lplaka ohouwa kawi 3lache. okayt3tele bzzzzaf mercie
abdelhalim
  • 67. abdelhalim | 09/06/2016
je cherche la ligne entre gare routier al kamra et l'aeroport rabat salé
sara
  • 68. sara | 19/05/2016
SVP quelle ligne qui va mener de Rbat à hay nahda
Saloua
  • 69. Saloua | 30/04/2016
Salam
Svp qu'elle ligne pour aller de takadoum à hôpital militaire
Merci
Saloua
amine
  • 70. amine | 14/04/2016
Salam,
quelle ligne de bus prendre pour aller de RABAT AGDAL jusqu'à l'ECOLE NORMALE SUPERIEURE à SOUISI ?
Merci.
chaimae
  • 71. chaimae | 20/02/2016
Quel ligne je dois prendre et de quelle station si je veux aller de rabat a Bouknadel (Jardins exotiques )
mohammed
  • 72. mohammed | 30/01/2016
est-ce qu'il y a un bus qui passe par la fin de
l'avenue mehdi ben barka
karima
  • 73. karima | 28/12/2015
Bonjour,
Je veux aller de la gare Rabat agdal à l'Avenue Moustapha Assayeh.
merci
Mme dahbi
  • 74. Mme dahbi | 17/12/2015
Svp je suis de salé demain je dois partir à sakniya de temara quel bus je dois reprendre
Houda
  • 75. Houda | 24/11/2015
Bonjour , je voudrais prendre le bus . j'habite à Hay EL Intilak avenue Hassan II w ma3rftch mnin nakhoud le bus 33 pour aller à Harhoura .
Merci de m'indiquer .
ilyas
  • 76. ilyas | 06/11/2015
J'habite a tamesna et je ne connais pas vraiment les numeros des bus et leuts trajets sur ce site alors il faut ajouter plein de choses
abdelaziz  mokhlisss
  • 77. abdelaziz mokhlisss | 01/11/2015
bonjour
je suis un conducteur de bus a rabat, je suis d'accord avec la plupart des intervenants . mais il savoir qui'il ya un grand manque de bus tout le temps il ya une surcharge étouffante qui rend la tâche des pauvres conducteurs vraiment difficile voir impossible
de plus la densité de la circulation est insupportable ce qui crée une atmosphère d'enfer ....savviez-. vous que la plupart des gens ne paye pas leur ticket ?
sincèrement ! vous qui prenez le bus pendant 30 ou 45 minutes comment vous trouverez l'atmosphère là dedans ..........? alors sachez que le conducteur passe plus que 9 h dans ces conditions. A suivre
Ikram
  • 78. Ikram | 25/10/2015
Salam , svp ina ligne katdi l technopolis o à partir de quelle station ?;
Mariame
  • 79. Mariame | 25/10/2015
Salam aleykoum ,
Quel bus va de rabat a temara puis temara rabat ? Mercii beaucoup
ahmed
  • 80. ahmed | 21/10/2015
merci quel bus de la gare rabat-ville a hay riad rue al aaraar
abdelaziz  mokhlisss
  • 81. abdelaziz mokhlisss | 08/10/2015
Qu'on est des formations des conducteurs des bus de stareo?
Ona torp parler de la formation des conducteurdrs des bus
et dieu sait que c'est très interesent, puisque il s'agit des vies
humaines , de tant plus que le maroc enregistre toujours
de gros pertess soit au niveau materiel qu'humaine
Je tiens sincèrement à remercier vivement monsieur
Le ministre de tous les efforts qu'li entrepend pour
l'amélioration des prestations du secteur
Mohamed
  • 82. Mohamed | 28/09/2015
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amine
  • 83. amine | 26/09/2015
Je tien un transmettre un message aux responsable qui gère le planing et la supervision c'est les rabati galère avec le bus ansi que lzq chaufeur fasse ce qu'ils veulent lorsque ils sont aux volent
walid anouar
  • 84. walid anouar | 21/09/2015
bghit n3rf chno khassni njm3 bach ndir la carte dial bus
amrani meryam
  • 85. amrani meryam | 13/09/2015
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karima
  • 86. karima | 09/09/2015
Aux responsables de Stareo :
Veuillez bien renforcer les lignes de bus 33 et 45 qui font le trajet bab elhad et sid el abed. Nos enfants étudiants aux facultés de rabat souffrent tout le temps du transport.
Autres chose veuillez bien préciser les heures de passage des bus et les afficher dans les stations. on a marre d'attendre des heures et des heures et merci pour votre compréhension.
meryem
  • 87. meryem | 25/08/2015
salam 3afakoum achmen bus kayddi men gare temara ====>takaddoum et merci
Laila
  • 88. Laila (site web) | 17/08/2015
salam lah ikhalikom bghit na3raf wach kain bus li kaymchi chella o loudaya wila momkin achno ra9em dial bus o jazakom allah khair
Enca
  • 89. Enca | 14/08/2015
Please, i need a map of the bus lines of rabat. Do you have a map with the lines of the public transportation? Thanks.
mourad
  • 90. mourad | 07/08/2015
salam,
pour Said la ligne est 37B;
pour hamza la ligne est 3 et 4;
pour Salima et omaima la ligne est 66;
pour Çhæřąf Əžæřwąłį la ligne est 8;
Çhæřąf Əžæřwąłį
  • 91. Çhæřąf Əžæřwąłį | 05/08/2015
Svp quel bus je peux prendre pour aller a l'administrations de douane?
omaima
  • 92. omaima | 26/07/2015
salam
s'il vous plais j'habite à l'ocean et je voudrais aller à ENS . quel bus je dois prendre
Salima
  • 93. Salima | 23/07/2015
Salam
bghit n3rf wach kayn chi bus mn gars rabat ville kaydoz 3la ens
hamza
  • 94. hamza | 14/07/2015
svp qu'elle bus prendre de bab el had a souissi ?? svp aidez moi c'est urgent
Said
  • 95. Said | 05/07/2015
C quoi le bus qui passe a côté de marjane ou kiabi seuplé
mohamed el mssaoudi
  • 96. mohamed el mssaoudi | 14/05/2015
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khadija
  • 97. khadija | 13/04/2015
bonjour a toute exactement nous sommes des musulmans et nous sommes tous être humain (allah ikhalshoum rla fraylhoum). merci
Rachid
  • 98. Rachid | 05/04/2015
Salam nous sommes musulman et la réponse est dans le coran tout c'est gens irrespectueux le sont t'il vraiment si oui alors qu'ils pensent à la parole de notre prophète
fatna
  • 99. fatna | 12/03/2015
salam moi aussi je suis d'accord avec cet procédure du sanction ou une autre solution que vous voyez satisfaite. moi aussi je suis tomber dans ce problème, je travaille a témara à harhoura je termine a 20h30 et quand je veux prendre le bus n° 33 ou le n° 45 pour ce rendre a rabat bab el ahad , il me faut attendre jusqu'a 1 heure ou parfois il passe sans qu'il arrête ou il éteint la lumière du panneaux du numéro de la ligne. Ca C’est catastrophe ( hachouma ralihoum hadchi ).
najat
  • 100. najat | 12/03/2015
Salam, allah irtik asaha allah irhm lik al walidin, c’est ca la solution mr rochdi sanction des primes ca va marcher avec les chauffeurs, ca viens de leur responsable qui n’ont pas bien gérer le secteur du transport public. Merci bcp.
rochdi
  • 101. rochdi | 12/03/2015
Bonjour, nous sommes tous des êtes humains mais ce type des choses c’est insupportable dans le capitale. la seule solution pour ce genre des employées qui font ses erreurs le voici : sanction du prime. C,est a dir enlever un montant du son salaire pendant 1 mois ou 2 mois ou plus. cadépant du l’erreur qui a fait, et vous allez voir le résultat ils vont respecter les arrêts et les horaires les enfants les élèves les malades…ect, . Espérant ca va appliquer dans secteur.
SINDIBAD
  • 102. SINDIBAD | 11/03/2015
Bonjour
Ce problème de chauffeurs qui ne s'arrêtent pas mérite d'y chercher une solution mais je ne sais pas ce qu'on peut faire : Aviser les gens de stareo, aviser les autorités municipales ou quoi?
Pour moi, ces chauffeurs sont des criminels qui méritent châtiment car parmi les passagers qu'ils laissent en chemin, il y a des malades qui ont besoin d'aller à l'hôpital, des étudiants qui risquent de rater leurs cours ou, pire encore, de rater leurs examens.
Abdo
  • 103. Abdo | 16/01/2015
Si vous voyez les chauffeurs de la ligne 65
Tu attend plus d'une heure quant le bus
arrive a la station le chauffeur s'arrête pas
Stareo c'est un grand probleme pour nous.
Je souhaite que les responsables trouve une solution!
hilal
  • 104. hilal | 05/12/2014
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mohamed
  • 105. mohamed | 30/10/2014
hello soufiya n labas 3lik dar ca va moi mohamed de marrakech iwa nas rbat ca va iwa rah kain l jadid
abderrahim
  • 106. abderrahim | 28/10/2014
Quel autobus peut me prendre de la gare routière kamra à ens rabat et merci
hind
  • 107. hind | 12/10/2014
Salalm lah ykhlikom brit chi bus kaydi man rabat ville l mega mall
soufian ouahib
  • 108. soufian ouahib (site web) | 17/09/2014
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souad
  • 109. souad | 22/08/2014
salut brit na3raf ana khdama f agdal ila brit ndir cart de bus achnahouma ijraat ou haja khra chnahovva l bus li kayhat hda marjane dial hay riad
yamati
  • 110. yamati | 17/06/2014
salut,
Est ce que le bus N°52 passe par la rue Almajd à Hay Yaacoub Almansour.
Merci d'avance
yamati
  • 111. yamati | 17/06/2014
salut,
Est ce que le bus N°52 passe par la rue Almajd à Hay Yaacoub Almansour.
Merci d'avance
bouchra
  • 112. bouchra | 13/06/2014
quel bus dois je prendre de gar agdal a quartier les ambassadeur
bouchra
  • 113. bouchra | 13/06/2014
quel bus dois je prendre de gar agdal a quartier les ambassadeur
Étudiant
  • 114. Étudiant | 11/06/2014
SVP bghina chi bus ydi mn sale al Jadida à Agdal
Et autre de sale al Jadida à Takadoum
Mohamed
  • 115. Mohamed | 09/05/2014
S'il vous plait on paye combien pour avoir la carte mensuelle (étudiant) et ça se fait où exactement ?
Brad
  • 116. Brad | 06/05/2014
Bonjour,
Quel autobus peut me prendre à technopolis? Et ou je peut le prendre?

Merci d'avance.
Rachid
  • 117. Rachid | 12/04/2014
juste ta carte nationnal pour abonnement
smail
  • 118. smail | 04/03/2014
svp quelles sont les pièces à fournir pour devenir abonné (payer mensuellement) je suis étudiant
machichourlak
  • 119. machichourlak | 10/01/2014
Ca va stareo si ils n'étaitaient pas la vous ne pourrier meme pas aller travailler alors vos bouche ptn
mouna
  • 120. mouna | 02/12/2013
ce matin j'ai attendu le bus pour une heure alors au lieux d'arriver a l'heur je suis arrivé en retard d'une heur, je pense que stareo fait son impossible pour nous virer de notre travail, moi je parle de la ligne 19 qui lie temara à takedoume, comment voulez vous améliorer le rendement de ces gents qui sont déjà stressés avant d'arriver à leur boulot.
اللهم إن هذا لمنكر، حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل
abd
  • 121. abd | 28/09/2013
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mero
  • 122. mero | 25/09/2013
s'il vous plais je voudrais savoir le trajet exacte du bus N° 37B
sakinat chikh daoui, 24 hectares
  • 123. sakinat chikh daoui, 24 hectares | 10/09/2013
Salut,
Nous demandons une ligne qui relie "chikh daoui, 24 hectares" à "madinat Irfane" parce que c'est un grand problème pour la population de ce quartier surtout les étudiants. Il y a juste la ligne 07 qui nous dépose à Kamra et il faut traverser "Sekka" donc nous sommes devons l'insécurité vu le nombre des agressions.
Espérons que notre demande soit prise en considération.
Cordialement
LAMIRI Moustapha
  • 124. LAMIRI Moustapha | 09/09/2013
Bonjour,

Je vous prie de penser d'urgence à une ligne qui passe par l'ISTA (Formation professionnelle OFPPT) de Hay Riad à côté de Dar Al Hadit Al Hassania et merci beaucoup d'avance.
ibra
  • 125. ibra | 27/08/2013
a salé les bus ne s'arrêtent a la plupart des stations même ci les clients sont des personnes âgés qui payent les tickets et des étudiants (dont je fait parti )qui ont leurs carte STAREO surtout à l'entrée de salé ( BAB EL KHMISS -AV HASSAN II telewin) et la région de l'aayayda, souvent les chauffeurs enlèvent le numéro du bus pour ne pas porter les utilisateurs du bus sur son chemin, on disant que les gens refusent de payer, mais la vérité c que les chauffeurs cherche à faire le voyage le plus vite possible pour bénéficier d'une sieste au terminus(c pas de cette manière qu'on règle les chose ) c bus sont 36/25/38/34
NOTE A BENNE : le trajet du bus 36 il faut le renforcer
brahim
  • 126. brahim | 27/08/2013
salam allah
question:
quel bus dois je prendre pour aller de BAB EL HAD pour aller à HAY NAHDA 1 RABAT
Karim
  • 127. Karim | 20/08/2013
Salam quelqu'un peut me dire quel bus il faut prendre pour aller à skhirat? ChouKŕane jazilane ;)
Med
  • 128. Med | 30/06/2013
Quel autobus peut me prendre de la gare Rabat Ville à Souissi exactement au 7ème arrondissement de police
ahmed
  • 129. ahmed (site web) | 30/06/2013
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زبون
  • 130. زبون (site web) | 24/05/2013
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houcie
  • 131. houcie (site web) | 17/05/2013
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sabatero9999
  • 132. sabatero9999 | 15/05/2013
stareo a lancé hier la nouvelle ligne (hay el fath - al irfane - marjane hay riad) le numero 37B, c bien pr lé etudiant de l3irfane parce qu'ils subissent toujours du trajet 9amra-3irfane lhamdoulah mli fahmouna
anonyme
  • 133. anonyme | 15/05/2013
WA 3ibaaad laaaaaaah diro lina chi bus kaydiii l 3irfane l dakhéééél ! rahna kanzlo fl9amra kola nhar okandrbo dik jbda bach nwslo l annex sbah o 3shia hchuma 3likom
benallal
  • 134. benallal | 14/05/2013
plz plz plz brina 53 men marché de gros temara
benallal
  • 135. benallal | 14/05/2013
plz plz plz brina 53 yrja3 men marché de gros temara:
sakina
  • 136. sakina | 09/02/2013
catastroph vraiment c pire le matin ma3amri wsalt fel wa9t
au moin reduiser le temps entre bus
jaoudar
  • 137. jaoudar | 14/12/2012
Apres une rude journée de travail,chaqu'un de nous cherche de trouver un bon moyen de transport pour rentrer chez lui,malheuresement ce n est pas le cas du nouveau systeme s taro(ou bien le renomé stareo)des joués de chinoi(bus),le non respect des horaires lors des heures de pointes,la non suffisante du nombre de bus .le maleur c est que les responsables savent tout ca mais ferment les yeux(aveugles).
ca c est pour le soir .
et si on passe au matin c de la merde.en faite c est de la grannnnnde merde.
des bus totalement pleins en faite doublement ou bien triplement pleins meme plus.
a qui la faute ?au passagers ? au contrôleur?au chauffeurs? au bus? au responsables ?
les passagers veulent arrivés a temps a leur travail.
les contrôleurs font leur travail.
les chauffeurs aussi.
les bus fabrication chinoise.et tout le monde connais les chinois.
les responsables sont responsable et doivent respecter et assumer leur responsabilité
wa zeft dial s taro wa guado les bus w zido f le nombre dialhom rako 3aye9to .w f l3assima ze3ma .
amal
  • 138. amal | 12/12/2012
le plus nul système que j'ai jamais vu les chauffeur guide la société à tombé ... et quoi d'autre c'est normale quand il y pas de contrôle la résulta c'est la merde total 10000 personne dans les arrêt, les bus vide s'arête pas et les bus plain s'arête!!!, la délais entre chaque bus 1h30min et il s'arête pas!! les bus casé... Waw question : pourquoi les contrôleur contrôle les gent où lieu de contrôler la duré entre les bus pubien le conducteur si il conduit bien et aussi les arrêt ou il es arrêter???? Ah vous contrôler l'argent qui entre mais jamais contrôler l'argent qui sorte.

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